Thursday, April 1, 2010

jpf files are not visible when in the...

jpf files are not visible when in the same directory as RAWs



I saw a post in luminous landscape that this was the case in the beta, but I have a hard time beleiving Adobe wouldn't have fixed this. I thought I would be able to use the folder and then select the file type to view one or the other or both, but I only see the RAWs. How do I review my RAWs and jpgs together to delete unwanted shots. Do I need to do this seperately and waste a bunch of time?
jpf files are not visible when in the...
Do a search on 'RAW + JPEG' and you will find a long thread or two on this topic.



Don



Don Ricklin, MacBook 1.83Ghz Duo 2 Core running 10.4.9 %26amp; Win XP, Pentax *ist D

http://donricklin.blogspot.com/

jpf files are not visible when in the...
At the present time you will have to put the JPEG images in a separate directory. They can then be imported.



Some of us (including me) think this is a bug. Some see it as a feature.

I reported as a bug back in beta 3 and the response from Adobe was that it was not a bug. The thing is LR will only build one xmp file for the two images so if one is raw and one jpg and changes to one would reflect in the other when opened and vice versa, quite confusing. You need to change the name of one for LR to distinguish between them if they reside in the same folder.

Even when you bring in the JPEG as Bob describes LR does not do a sidecar for it. XMP data gets written to JPEGs and TIFFs.



Don



Don Ricklin, MacBook 1.83Ghz Duo 2 Core running 10.4.9 %26amp; Win XP, Pentax *ist D

http://donricklin.blogspot.com/


Bug or feature, it's probably here to stay for LR because of the xmp issue.



Why do you want the jpg in LR anyway? With develop snapshots, what purpose does it serve to keep a jpg lying around? I can see why you might want a psd, but letting LR add ''edited-1'' to the psd file name seems fine to me.

Jerry:



As long as I have to go outside Lightroom to deal noisy images (using NeatImage), sharpen for output and convert the JPEG or TIFF using the target printer/paper profile then I need to have access to the JPEG or TIFF. I am currently forced to place such files in separate directories but would prefer to have the ability to have the NEF, PSD, TIFF, JPEG in the same directory.

you should be able to have them all in the same directory/folder within LR. LR just won't import then that way. Move as you want (from within LR) once imported, AFAIK.



Don



Don Ricklin, MacBook 1.83Ghz Duo 2 Core running 10.4.9 %26amp; Win XP, Pentax *ist D

http://donricklin.blogspot.com/


Well...



For me, I don't really mind to put the JPG and RAW in different folders, but what I would like to see is an ''auto-stack'' option that upon Import, stacks my ''same'' images, the RAW on top (JPGs under).



And if no ''auto-stack'' option, then please let me stack them manually instead of throwing me a ''you can't'' message!



That would be great.

%26gt; For me, I don't really mind to put the JPG and RAW in different folders, but what I would like to see is an ''auto-stack'' option that upon Import,...



Stacking doesn't presently work across different folders and, if you think about it, you can see there might be some difficulties implementing such a system.



So, to auto-stack like images on import, they need to be able to be imported from the same folder, which they can't be at present.

Ryan, if you set up Neatimage as an external editor, then when you just ''edit in neatimage'' from the photo menu, it will be renamed %26lt;filename%26gt;-edited-1. When you save from neatimage you will be saving %26lt;nailename%26gt;-edited-1.tiff (or jpg, or ?). LR then automatically reimports that as a separate image and, if you checked the option, automatically stacks it with the original. Is that unacceptable?
THe alternate to this scenario is PSD not JPG. Set in preferences. Can be 8 or 16 bit; sRGB/aRGB or PpRGB.



Don



Don Ricklin, MacBook 1.83Ghz Duo 2 Core running 10.4.9 %26amp; Win XP, Pentax *ist D

http://donricklin.blogspot.com/


I put the files in seperate folders eventually, but I go through them first and delete out the ones I don't want to keep first. I guess this is the way it works and there is no solution. That seems so stupid. I'm thinking of selling LR and continue to use ACDSee for file management. I have PS CS3 for editing. I bought a LR book last night to give the program one more try thinking it might be me, but so far I am not impressed. In both LR and PS CS3 I would have thought they would have added better upsizing algorithms at least and would have allowed for RAW+JPG reviewing and possibly comparison.

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