Tuesday, December 6, 2011

using two different computers and...

hello,



i have two computers, one at home with the majority of the files on it, and a small laptop i take with me when i travel. if i import photos into lightroom on my laptop to work on when i'm out, how can i get those files merged into my home computer?



i work primarily in JPG.



i find that when i export a ''developed'' JPG file from my laptop, it LOSES all of its ''history'' when i reimport it onto my home computer (ie, if i converted it to grayscale, i cannot convert back once i re-import on my home computer).



now, i know that if i export as DNGs, that's not a problem - and it works out OK. however, it would be nice to be able to keep the files as JPGs, so that they are easier to share and move around (you know, copy to a flash card, and take to the photo kiosk to print, etc).



is this possible? or am i asking too much?



i think i'm basically asking if there is an easy way to merge libraries between two (un-networked) computers.



thanks.

stephen
using two different computers and...
Well, sort of.



If you write the xmp data to the files (metadata, xmp, ...) you can then import the file and get most of the settings. You won't get:



VCs

Collection information

Stacks

History snapshots

History
using two different computers and...
what are VC's?



it seems like at this point, all you get is a ''developed'' file - is this right? are you losing the ''original''?

Virtual copies.



No, you'll still have the original, along with all the develop settings except those I mentioned. This isn't exporting, it's just writing the metadata (the develop settings and other metadata) to the image file, without altering the image itself.

i'll give it another try...



i had developed a photo, and then exported with XMP data (into a JPG file).



when i re-imported it on the other computer, all i had left was the developed image. i couldn't go back to the original.



(however, this does work when i used a DNG-- the files are just a lot bigger, which could be kind of annoying. i would prefer to stay within JPG, since it makes it easier to manage).



your thoughts? thanks!

Right. Forget the developed and exported photo. Just export the XMP data into the files. As I said before, it's in metadata, xmp...



That will export the metadata to the *original file* which you can then move and import on the other machine. Don't export the image, just export the metadata to the original image using the menu option I gave you.

ah-ha.



i get it.



export the XMP. then just find the particular directory where the jpg files are saved, and copy them to (for example) a USB drive.



then use that to move to the new computer and import.



i think that this works....



does the ''zeroed'' preset mean the ''original'' unaltered file?



i think this may be the way to go!



thanks a bunch for your help,

stephen

%26gt; ...find the particular directory where the jpg files are saved



You know, there's an LR option for exactly that (right-click an image, show in...).



%26gt; does the ''zeroed'' preset mean the ''original'' unaltered file?



I think so.

Another way to deal with the problem is to put the Library on a portable external HD. Doing this you lose nothing - development settings, keywords, labels, collections, etc. are all preserved.



If you import a folder of images when running LR on the portable, you can move the image folder (using your OS) to your desktop machine, then re-locate the files for LR when running LR from the desktop. If your external drive is large enough to hold both the Library and your shoot photos, you can move the images to the desktop machine using LR itself. [ drag them in the folder panel from the external to an existing folder from the desktop machine in the panel.]

%26gt;does the ''zeroed'' preset mean the ''original'' unaltered file?



It depends on the format of the file you're working with.



For proprietary raw or DNG files zeroed means that all the adjustment sliders in the Basic, HSL, Split Tone, Detail, Lens Corrections and Camera Calibration panels are set to zero. The Tone Curve is set to Linear. In some instances this may not be the same as resetting the image or choosing default settings.



For JPG, PSD and TIFF it's equal to reset or default settings.

LR with my External HD when switching machines and the HD, ascually saves the Stacks, but not Collections or Keywords. Is there a workaroung to save the collections or keywords.(DNG files)...Thanks,Phil

Make sure the Library file ( the .lrdb file) is on the External HD. Thats where all the metadata lives.



Rumor has it that ver 1.1 is just around the corner, and that it includes merging libraries.
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