Tuesday, March 23, 2010

Lightroom not recognizing ratings from...

I use iView Pro as part of my workflow, adding metadata and ratings. I then synchronize to the original files. I am using DNG files for this, since RAW files could become corrupted if the metadata is embedded in them.

I have used this process with Photoshop CS2 and Bridge, and Bridge recognizes the keywords, other metadata, and ratings.

Lightroom is recognizing the other metadata, but not the ratings. Lightroom help says, if there is a discrepancy between the Lightroom library and the original file, there will be an alert icon that should be double clicked and the file can be updated.

I have no alert icons- Lightroom seems to simply be ignoring the rating, even though Bridge sees it.

I'm using Windows XP.

Any ideas?

Thanks
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%26amp;gt; I am using DNG files for this, since RAW files could become corrupted if the metadata is embedded in them.
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%26lt;br /%26gt;You might try a test image or two with RAW + sidecar and see if that works.
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%26lt;br /%26gt;Not being an iView user, does it do something with ratings and/or metadata that LR doesn't?
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Lightroom not recognizing ratings from...
Just tested it successfully with DNGs, iView 3.1.3, Windows XP, Lightroom 1.0. Changed the rating in iView, ran Sync, then imported into LR - ratings there. Changed rating again in iView, Sync, then Metadata %26gt; XMP %26gt; Import - ratings change. This other import is needed if you change the ratings outside iView - unlike Bridge, LR doesn't update automatically .



John

John,



Yes, iView does write to raw files too, using the Nikon libraries or guesswork for Canon. While there is a risk dealing with undocumented formats, I see no problem writing directly into working copies of raw files IF you are wise enough to keep virgin backups too. It's my call, and I like that iView sees it that way.



John

Hmmmm. Reminds me of other requests- perhaps we'll see options to write into RAW files as well as create sidecars for all formats....



John

I doubt it, at least not from Adobe. I accept that's their stance, and it's not unreasonable - just think how pxxxed off people would be if LR corrupted the only version of a raw file. They're better off devoting development time to Library. Equally, I find embedded metadata useful when I run raw files through programs like Capture NX or Aperture which fail to read XMP. I lock up my virgins, so I'm not taking any risk. I'd like Adobe to change their view, but it's not going to happen.



Of course, a 3rd party module could do it.



John

Thanks for the useful responses. I followed the John (johnbeardy)recommendation above, Metadata/XMP/Import and it did not work. I then upgraded iView from 3.1.2 to 3.1.3 and it worked! Go figure. I'm just learning Lightview and I didn't even know about the Metadata import, which I didn't find in Lightroom help.

On the RAW metadata subject, I was burned when a whole set of RAW files was irretrievably corrupted with metadata synchronization, going back and forth between Nikon Capture, iView, and Photoshop CS(I had originals backed up so survived.)

Although one can argue about the logic of the industry having proprietary, non-documented RAW formats, in my opinion it's very dangerous to imbed metadata directly into RAW files, because a simple change in the format from the manufacturer may result in corruption. I think Adobe is right to keep away from directly writing to RAW files, using XMP sidecar instead.

However, for me using DNG's is far preferable, since metadata can be imbedded without danger, and all the programs I use work well with DNG's.

Jim

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